r/news Dec 08 '21 Silver 1 Helpful 2 Wholesome 2

'It's just crazy': 12 major cities hit all-time homicide records

https://abcnews.go.com/US/12-major-us-cities-top-annual-homicide-records/story?id=81466453
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u/TrustTheProcess92 Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

North Philly is a fucking shithole right now. Get gun shot victims literally every day at the hospital I work at

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u/Readcoolbooks Dec 08 '21

Also a nurse in Philly. I’ve gotten to the point I am asking TEENAGERS if it’s their first time being shot.

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u/AssistX Dec 09 '21

Just down 95 a bit, Wilmington passed it's all time high for gun violence almost a full two months before the end of the year. All time high was 32 in 2017, we're over 40 with a month to go still. By all reports they're on the younger side.

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u/m_s_phillips Dec 09 '21

When I first moved out this way, I dated a woman who lived right off 95 in Wilmington and I was literally stunned at the level of violence. For a city of officially just 70,000 people or so, it's insane.

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u/colefly Dec 09 '21

Woo Delaware

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u/13millimeters Dec 09 '21

Just curious, do you ask because it helps their understanding of their treatment and recovery, to flag them for intervention/help, something else?

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u/jskullytheman Dec 08 '21

North Philly been a shit hole lol I lived about 10 blocks off temples campus about 10 years ago. I’ve got some quality stories

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u/ForWhomTheBoneBones Dec 09 '21

10 blocks off? How far is that in Jawns?

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u/Name-Initial Dec 09 '21

North Philly - Same shit hole flavor you love, now at an all time high!

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u/jezvinder Dec 08 '21

I live here too and it really feels lawless at times. No such thing as traffic laws anymore. The daily carjackings and gun violence is insane. There’s zero regard for children, seniors, or any bystanders.

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u/putmeinabag Dec 08 '21

My sister lives in Philly and we just visited her a few weeks ago. I love Philly! But this time… it felt, different. It felt unsafe. It felt dirty. I swear I saw literal zombies walking around. I was sad. It wasn’t quite the Philly I remember.

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u/brook1yn Dec 09 '21

Bummer.. it was quite sketchy living there in the late 90s. Sounds like it got better then worse again

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u/lellololes Dec 08 '21

People don't call it Filthydelphia for nothing.

Philly has some very nice areas and some very not so nice areas.

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u/Far-Confection-1631 Dec 08 '21

Yeah, this is the Philly I remember unfortunately. They called North Philly the badlands for a reason. Felt like Nutter finally had done a great job of revitalizing the city similar to how NYC and Boston had been doing for decades prior. Then after a decade of great improvements we took 2 steps back with gang violence and open air drug dealing.

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u/GozerDGozerian Dec 08 '21

Man, that brought back a memory.

My dad used to travel around the the mid Atlantic region for work. He hated Philly more than anywhere else. He called it Filthydelphia, and also The City of Brotherly Love and Multiple Stab Wounds. Haha.

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u/Fairytaleautumnfox Dec 09 '21 edited Dec 09 '21

Philly has some very nice areas

Downtown, the Old City, and Society Hill might as well have a different ZIP code than the surrounding slums.

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u/mbz321 Dec 08 '21

Suburbs here, but I follow the local news...seems like not a day goes by when there is some sort of shooting incident. It's a shame as the city was just turning around it's crime ridden image.

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u/TrustTheProcess92 Dec 09 '21

Yea I live in the suburbs too. Honestly I didn’t realize just how fucking bad it was until I got this job. Been going to Philly regularly my entire life, but like I assume most people do, mainly went to the nice places. Center City, Old City, Rittenhouse, Penn, etc

It’s insane how one minute you’re driving by literal multi million dollar homes in the Jenkintown area and the second you cross the border into the city it’s basically an open air drug market and gang haven. I see zero police from the time I cross the county border until I get to the actual hospital. It’s just sad

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u/Razlaw Dec 09 '21

Double murder up the block from me in the Northeast.

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u/GingerUsurper Dec 09 '21

Murders were unheard of 20 years ago in NE Philly. It's horrifying the decline in quality of life.

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u/Loggerdon Dec 08 '21

Hey you left out Las Vegas. Our murder rate went up 67% in 2021.

"A lot of problems are buried out there in the desert" (Casino)

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u/TravelingHoid Dec 09 '21

Great. Going to Vegas this weekend

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u/owtlandish Dec 09 '21

To do some murdering?

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u/endeend8 Dec 09 '21

Who gets shots in Vegas stays in Vegas

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u/Starlightriddlex Dec 09 '21

No, just some digging

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u/TravelingHoid Dec 09 '21

Have been watching more Dexter lately.....

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u/hogtiedcantalope Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

Rochester NY weighing in...

Warren the now finally ex-mayor went down for sooo many s[c]andals

blm Daniel Prude video cover up,

campaign finance fraud,

resignations+firing of a carousel of new police chiefs in and out,

on top of illegal guns found In her house during a state police raid and coke/money/guns with her ex husband who lives there,

Things are fucked

My bike got stolen last week

Every weekend there's gun shots

Broken glass

Homelessness

Crazy protestors outside the hospitals next to military provided inflatable tents

So many boarded up buildings

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u/bencub91 Dec 08 '21

Buffalo here. You guys are almost making us look good.

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u/davidw69 Dec 08 '21

I'm antsy in Lockport since the sabres suck I'm not going anywhere near the city

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u/BasedMcNuggies Dec 09 '21

Can you mail me some Pizza Oven or Reids please lol

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u/CarbonatedEnema Dec 09 '21

Syracuse ain't too bad looking at a lot of the country. Just cold bruh

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u/Aidonius Dec 08 '21

sorry to hear about your bike my dude

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u/Warcraze440 Dec 08 '21

That is a lot of sandals

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u/SuggestAPhotoProject Dec 08 '21 Silver

It’s a real Croc of shit.

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u/athazagor Dec 09 '21

They keep flip flopping on the issue

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u/GeeToo40 Dec 09 '21

Maybe they need to boot up and get to work.

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u/jangotaurus Dec 09 '21

Let's not forget about Judge Astacio who was convicted for a DWI, violated her parole by drinking like 5 different times, trying to buy a gun, leaving the county to gamble, and missing a court date because she flew to Thailand, all while on paid administrative leave.

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u/StolenCandi Dec 09 '21

Rochester too ... It's been fucking bonkers. Add to your list the rash of juvenile lead car jackings and multiple vehicles in bodies of water multiplied by the gun violence. I don't know what's going on but it feels like we're rocketing towards a tipping point. Stay safe.

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u/OssiansFolly Dec 09 '21

Poverty. When the wealth gap and poverty increase so does crime. It's been proven through history time and time again.

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u/Enragedocelot Dec 08 '21

Holy shit I thought Rochester was some rich fancy town where all the rich bozos from my college lived.

Turns out it is and it seems like there’s some major economic inequalities too.. and prolly loads of other shit

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u/andyburke Dec 08 '21

As a UR alum, Rochester has had terrible inequality for at least the last 25 years.

The University and Strong (and RIT) have become the major employers in the area as Kodak and Xerox have bled and fled.

But the University is a perfect example of the issue: on one side of the river it's a beautiful, expensive private college campus and on the other it's subsidized public housing. We used to joke about how dangerous it was to cross the footbridge, but it wasn't a joke, really.

Rochester was a dying city. I think it remains to be seen if the schools and hospitals can save it. Until and unless they really can and there are jobs and opportunities for everyone, this is going to continue to be a problem.

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u/hogtiedcantalope Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 09 '21

I lived on the other side of the footbridge 19th ward

Next to a liquor store...

Saw lots of shit go down

Five white college guys in a mostly black neighborhood, so things got interesting

That thing with the football player kidnapped and tortured by drug dealers where they sliced between his toes while he was tied up, that abducction was right down the road where the footbridge meets that apartment complex on the river

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u/Fppares Dec 09 '21

Dude long shot but I may have been to your house, next to that liquor store and wings n' things. I lived on Barton for a while going to UR 😆

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u/Delta728 Dec 09 '21 edited Dec 09 '21

As someone who actually grew up in Rochester, if you compare Rochester today to where it was 25 years ago, it's doing worlds better overall.

You're absolutely right that the city has a ton of problems, but overall it's on the upswing despite what has definitely been a bad year or two. I think it's sort of a trees/forest thing - the overall trend is positive despite current issues. And to be clear, I am in no way trying to minimize the violence happening there right now, I just really love my hometown and hate when doomers try to poison all of that progress.

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u/Delta728 Dec 09 '21 edited Dec 09 '21

The overall metro area itself is really pretty nice, it's the city itself that is really rough in some places.

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u/ty_kanye_vcool Dec 09 '21

Rochester is a lot like the other rust belt Great Lakes cities. It peaked decades ago and has been on the decline since.

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u/DepletedMitochondria Dec 08 '21

Crazy protestors outside the hospitals next to military provided inflatable tents

The fuck?

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u/zzyul Dec 09 '21

Sounds like people protesting Covid vaccines and tents set up by the National Guard to deal with the hospital’s overflow of Covid patients.

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u/ForWhomTheBoneBones Dec 09 '21

Sounds like the protestors are cutting out the middleman and can just walk into the tents once they test positive instead of taking an ambulance. That’s awful forward thinking of them!

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u/riptide81 Dec 08 '21

Oh yeah, you get a real worst of both worlds in those upstate NY cities.

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u/dishwab Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 09 '21

** checks for Detroit **

Hell yeah, not on a “most murders” list for once!

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u/Hodr Dec 09 '21

Well this is increase in murders, hard to improve on perfection.

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u/caldric Dec 08 '21

Had a high bar to start with

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u/Jamo3306 Dec 08 '21

I don't think there's enough people living there anymore.

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u/benjaminbrixton Dec 09 '21

Because most aren’t living anymore?

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u/UnSafeThrowAway69420 Dec 08 '21

no Los Angeles either, yay!

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u/Panzer-Hawk Dec 08 '21

Always some wild shit going down in Philly

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u/condensermike Dec 08 '21

Gritty agree.

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u/GozerDGozerian Dec 08 '21

That fucking cracked out terror vision is the perfect mascot for that city. J/K philly I love you. And I’m from Baltimore so there’s no looking down at you from where I’m at. :)

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u/Benzol1987 Dec 08 '21

That's just from Frank and the Gang waving the guns around.

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u/kscott93 Dec 08 '21

So anyways, I started blasting

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u/santha7 Dec 08 '21

Where my 901 at? Shit.

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u/samus1225 Dec 08 '21

I mean, you can only murder so many people, Memphis.

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u/tedlyb Dec 08 '21

Why you gotta challenge it like that?

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u/my_name_is_reed Dec 09 '21

I was there last spring. I asked my Uber driver why there were so many cops parked on the highway. He told me it was because they had motherfuckers out there driving around capping random people in other cars on the goddamn highway.

Bbq was legit, 10/10 would recommend.

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u/Minerva7 Dec 09 '21

Yeah, that's Memphis.

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u/GibbysUSSA Dec 09 '21

When I was there the cops were on strike.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21

Samuel Little has entered the chat room

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u/DoktorThodt Dec 08 '21

Yeah, I'm surprised, too. Happy, but surprised.

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u/repwin1 Dec 08 '21

Hold my king cobra - Memphis Mane

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u/Diablo516- Dec 08 '21

Here my dude. Can't fucking believe we did not make this list.

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u/slayalldayyyy Dec 08 '21

Pretty sure DC should be on here as well

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u/SaulsAll Dec 08 '21

My first thought was "Woo-hoo! Not Baltimore!"

But then I remembered this is cities breaking their all-time record and well...

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u/comicshopgrl Dec 09 '21

Haha, I had the same reaction. It's always nice to see Baltimore not make a murder list.

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u/Fukface_Von_Clwnstik Dec 09 '21

You wanted it to be one way, but it's the other.

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u/meepcreep Dec 08 '21

I think I saw the Washington Post said it is the highest since 2005.

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u/Rusty-Shackleford Dec 09 '21

DC resident checking in. Shit's bad. Real bad. We've had a couple of cases of stray bullets killing kids this year.

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u/slayalldayyyy Dec 09 '21

Way too many kids dying, stray bullets or otherwise. Another high school kid just last week.

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u/Macjeems Dec 09 '21

DC has been getting bad for sure, but I think DC (and Baltimore) probably have some pretty high records. Probably why you don’t see cities like Chicago, New Orleans and St. Louis on the list.

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u/Thus_Spoke Dec 08 '21

Really dumb that they're using raw numbers rather than per capita. Some of these are rapidly growing cities that will be "setting records" in raw numbers for years to come while others are shrinking and still setting records.

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u/Dillatrack Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 09 '21

Most of these already had high homicide rates per capita, these are the four that weren't on this list and Austin/Portland look like the only misleading ones

Austin, TX (3.2)

Portland, OR (4.4)

St. Paul, MN (9)

Tucson, AZ (7.3)

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-6

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u/RapNVideoGames Dec 08 '21

Louisville is crazy. I had one friend die from being hit off his dirt bike and left for dead having a stroke a few months ago, police didn’t even try to find who killed him… I have had guns drawn on me for petty stupid shit and people try to run me off the highway just from road rage. Guns are so easy to get here, just need the money and someone without warrants to go in the pawn shop. There’s nothing for teenagers (the ones doing the majority of shootings) to do, if they do plan something it makes the news, like going to the waterfront or the mall. Hard drugs have been everywhere for years now. In school it was common to see 2-3 ods on the way home from school. Nowadays it less common to see an od in the open but you can see when junkies line up at certain places to get their fix, police don’t give a shit, it’s the same areas as the 90s and 00s. You can literally park your car in a parking lot beside your dealer. Get your shit and then shoot up in your car and no one will bat an eye at you. Shit isn’t normal and I know it’s like this in most places.

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u/Detachabl_e Dec 08 '21

ABQ getting rough again. Tons of break-ins/property crime too. Good to see that federal consent decree having a strong impact /s

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u/tratemusic Dec 09 '21

We've been on a record breaking roll. I think the only reason last year didn't do it was cuz of lockdown

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u/onairmastering Dec 08 '21

We're fucked in Portland.

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u/milkypirate111 Dec 08 '21

Congratulations on your 2000% increase Portland! Well done

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u/yungalbundy Dec 09 '21

Shreveport, LA checking in.

38.4 murders per 100,000 people. 93 percent by gunshot wound. My daughter’s best friend in her Kindergarten class was killed by a stray bullet earlier this year. The city is absolutely out of control.

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u/Chunks_McGunks Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

If Memphis has 34 more in December we’ll break our record of 323 set way back in 2020 and I don’t even see Memphis on that list.

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u/baconwagoneer Dec 08 '21 Helpful

Do your part.

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u/Drippless Dec 09 '21

This is the first Reddit comment that actually cracked me up all day. Thank you.

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u/Morgrid Dec 09 '21

Oh boy, here I go killing again!

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u/Vaeli47 Dec 08 '21

Chicago isn't on the list, but I guess it's hard for us to break records, we stay high.

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u/Nick357 Dec 09 '21

The stores in Lennox mall at Atlanta shop whatever you buy to you since people leaving with bags are likely to be robbed or worse.

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u/HellonHeels33 Dec 09 '21

Damn. I was just visiting there and had no idea how bad it was around there.

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u/Granny_knows_best Dec 09 '21

Is that word supposed to be SHIP, I cant wrap my head around this sentence.

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u/Kaner16 Dec 09 '21

I'm amazed Memphis didn't make the list.

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u/Zetsumenchi Dec 09 '21

"Folks just need to chill out.

Drink a 7UP,

Eat a Moonpie,

Quit murdering people."

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21

Hell yeah, philadelphia. Waving my #1 foam finger in the air.

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u/hpark21 Dec 08 '21

We are number 1! We are number 1!

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u/BulkyPage Dec 08 '21

How many bodies did Gritty contribute?

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u/thoroakenfelder Dec 08 '21

If they haven’t been found yet, they’re not in the tally.

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u/MasterOfMyDomainX Dec 09 '21

Shhhh... Ain't nobody ratting out Gritty.

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u/PrehistoricDawg69420 Dec 08 '21

Go birds

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u/AKsuited1934 Dec 08 '21

Fuck Dallas

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u/IridiumPony Dec 08 '21

But seriously fuck those guys

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21

Go flyers 🤙🏼

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u/Enragedocelot Dec 08 '21

It was when that quiet Temple kid got shot and killed over some robbery of sorts that got me sweatin a little more.

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u/jablonski79 Dec 09 '21

Good thing I'm safe in Camden.

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u/SimpleMoses Dec 09 '21

Funny how not long ago that wouldn’tve been true

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u/jablonski79 Dec 09 '21

Words probably never uttered before.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '21

One time I walked across the ben Franklin just for something to do and was met with a guy passed out on the ground, completely blocking the sidewalk at the Camden side lol. It was like 1 pm too. I was expecting him to throw me three riddles.

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u/irishdrunkass Dec 08 '21 Helpful Wholesome

We did it boys, we cured Covid

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u/dcbsky8591 Dec 09 '21

Time to look into who the DA’s are, and who helped put them there.

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u/JtolaJeff Dec 08 '21

Louisville comes as no surprise.

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u/RapNVideoGames Dec 08 '21

/r/Louisville barely talks about the west end…

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u/OhSheGlows Dec 08 '21

Yeah, I had a feeling Toledo would make that list.

There’s a lot I want to say but tbh I’m just tired. I want better for my city but I’m tired.

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u/KittenPurrs Dec 08 '21

Earlier this year I saw a stat for homicides in NYC and assumed it was a mistake because it was less than twice Indy's number despite our city having a population of less than a million. Nope. We're just murdery here in the capital of corn. Guess I should have figured this place had some issues when one of my neighbors survived a daytime shooting only to get murdered a couple months later. (I don't live in a great area obviously, but my neighbors are all nice people.)

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u/Klendy Dec 09 '21

I live in Illinois and I would like to challenge you as the capital of corn.

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u/Maarloeve74 Dec 09 '21

front doors of my high school opened to a corn field and you didn't have to cross a road to get to it. ohio has entered the chat.

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u/Improvcommodore Dec 09 '21

It’s all eastside gang violence. People also forget that Indy’s the 15th largest city in the country. 950,000 in the city proper, but 2.4 million in the metro area.

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u/Ataraxias24 Dec 08 '21

“Nobody’s getting arrested anymore," Boyce said. "People are getting picked up for gun possession and they're just let out over and over again."

What? So they ARE being arrested?

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u/extracKt Dec 08 '21

Yeah this is what I don’t understand. You can be for or against cops, but when you read “we do arrest and then they get let out” it’s like well then what the fuck man?? Who’s fault is that then, the DAs? What’s going on?

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u/kemikos Dec 08 '21

That's exactly it. The Chicago chief prosecutor just released multiple participants in a firefight with no charges. Happened in broad daylight, the whole thing was caught on security cameras, at least one fatality. The reasoning behind dropping all charges? Well, they were all "mutual combatants". So that's ok.

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u/mrprogrampro Dec 08 '21

And judges, I think. Don't judges determine bail?

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u/Cloaked42m Dec 09 '21

Both prosecutors and judges.

A prosecutor will make a recommendation and decide what charges to take to court.

Judge decides if they are going to accept those recommendations.

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u/IWasOnThe18thHole Dec 08 '21

The DA office in Portland isn't even asking for bail for a lot of people including those who police literally witnessed trying to shoot another person

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u/Stormthorn67 Dec 08 '21

Well bail is bullshit. Either someone is dangerous and money shouldn't get them out or they aren't dangerous and being poor shouldn't be the sole factor in them staying in.

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u/Phaedryn Dec 08 '21

Bail is supposed to simply guarantee you return for your trial. The intent was simple, you have not been convicted of anything yet so locking you up would be a violation of your rights (that whole 'due process' thing), but holding you to ensure you are at your trial is ok. Bail was simply meant to be insurance.

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u/hatrickstar Dec 08 '21

Hot take but but if you're arrested for assault or murder you shouldn't be granted bail anyway...

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u/Detachabl_e Dec 09 '21 Wholesome

Hot take: if you're found not guilty, the government should reimburse you for holding you pretrial automatically.

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u/Sonicsnout Dec 09 '21

Why is this down voted lol

This is one of the most reasonable statements ever

Why should the government not reimburse people for lost time/wages etc for incarcerating someone who is later found not guilty?

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u/StrangeWill Dec 09 '21

Pondered it: but it puts massive fiscal incentive on the state for finding people guilty.

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u/Possibly_a_Firetruck Dec 09 '21

The feds kind of already do that. Their conviction rate is like 90% because they only prosecute cases they can win.

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u/BornDyed Dec 09 '21

Pondered it: but it puts massive fiscal incentive on the state for finding people guilty.

The state only brings charges on cases they have a reasonable expectation of winning. In the trial field, their win/lose ratio is a testament to their prowess as litigators. That incentive is weighty enough to find people guilty who may not be. Their concern for their record/reputation far outweighs the importance of saving the government money.

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u/USPO-222 Dec 09 '21

Not to mention that the state’s money is actually your tax money. How many people will vote to approve that particular tax hike?

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u/Xenon_132 Dec 09 '21

Seems pretty clear given the record breaking homicides letting people out without bail is backfiring.

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u/vainbetrayal Dec 09 '21

The DA in San Francisco's behaving similarly.

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u/MudKing123 Dec 09 '21

Yes the DA and even the judges have prohibited building more jails. The liberal left sees building more jails as a moral sin.

With covid the criminal got released with non violent offenses, but some of those criminals do have a violent past just maybe they were in jail for grand theft at the time covid hit. Still they got released. Sentences are lighter, no cash bail in a lot of these places.

The police are scared to do their job because of they make a mistake they will lose their job. They also don’t feel appreciated then their resources are cut and they have at attend protest where radical liberals spit in their face and call them pigs, while the silent majority stays silent.

10 years of this. Until people forget George Floyd. Have fun y’all!!

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u/PelicanJack Dec 08 '21

Meanwhile in Houston...

A wave of "activist judges" were elected recently and are consistently giving $10 bail to violent felonies but throwing the book at people for victimless and/or petty crimes. I have had a LOT of firmly anti-gun people approach me and ask about training, purchasing, and carrying a sidearm because they are seeing things happen to people they personally know and suddenly realize that crime doesn't recognize the privilege they were taking for granted.

I only wish we could get some of that 1960's Black Panther energy of community and class solidarity to replace the narcissism and selfishness that is so prevalent in contemporary US society.

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u/DarkApostleMatt Dec 09 '21

Ever since the riots a while back conceal carry courses have been packed. I have family that teach it and they are booked months in advance with all sorts of people taking it.

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u/Tentings Dec 08 '21

Bail reform. A lot of states are moving away from bail and in New York for example, you will get released unless the crime is extremely serious. Someone in NYS can commit vehicular manslaughter, run from police, resist arrest, and still be released.

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u/Detachabl_e Dec 08 '21

Yeah it is no coincidence Albuquerque is on that list. New Mexico went through bail reform and the amount of people re-offending while out on conditions of release now is just insane. DA can't put together global pleas fast enough to incorporate all the latest offenses.

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u/recovering_physicist Dec 08 '21

Bail reform doesn't have to mean releasing people though, it should just mean that you're detained or released regardless of your access to money.

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u/AbuMaxwell Dec 09 '21

Yep, activist State Attorney offices can really cause problems for the public.

E.g. Waukesha

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u/avc4x4 Dec 08 '21

Definitely the fault of the DAs. We have one here in Cook county (which includes Chicago) that pretty much ran on a social justice/ultra progressive platform and it's been a complete disaster.

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u/Rattlingjoint Dec 08 '21

Kim Foxx is corrupt as all hell. Typical politician from Chicago though, talk a progressive game, live large and let the city kill itself.

And people from Chicago just do this over and over

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u/avc4x4 Dec 08 '21

Nailed it. It's sad because it's a cool city and it truly could be great if we elected competent leaders.

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u/JuniorMancini Dec 08 '21

San Francisco sends its regards.

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u/hatrickstar Dec 08 '21

I'm very liberal but I home they recall Chesa Boudin's idiot ass.

Dude is a failure of a DA.

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u/Pretz_ Dec 09 '21

Chesa Boudin isn't a failure of a DA. Chesa Boudin comes from a family of actual, not-exaggerated convicted-of-murder terrorists.

I don't believe people should be punished for the sins of their parents, but in terms of public security this seems like a complete no-brainer. It's not like this guy is some average, normal DA with non-controversial opinions. It's one of the most baffling things I've ever heard of.

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u/hattmall Dec 09 '21

Wow, what in the fuck!!? How are these people free, and they are professors!? Literally bombed and killed people including cops, this is fucking crazy.

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u/DorisCrockford Dec 09 '21

People should pay more attention to these local races instead of relying on someone else’s opinion. I heard Boudin speak at a neighborhood forum, and he acted extremely angry, almost unhinged. It seemed like he felt that he should be elected because he’d paid his dues, not because he’d do a good job. I never would have gotten that impression if I hadn’t seen and heard him in person. The last thing we needed was a DA with an axe to grind.

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u/Based_or_Not_Based Dec 08 '21

Philly is arresting them then dumping them out on cheap bail, or just dropping the charges.

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u/Contra_Mortis Dec 08 '21

4 kids in my town 14 and 15 caught with guns. Released to parents.

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u/k890 Dec 08 '21

Philadelfia - 501 homicides in a year and 1,6 mln pop., Poland in 2020 - 656 homicides in a year (granted, in 2019 there was only 531 homicides in whole country) and 37 mln pop. If you play in same league as medium sized country, things are bad.

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u/Always_Jerking Dec 08 '21

Weird. I read:

2019, number of homicides for Poland was 253. Number of homicides of Poland fell gradually from 855 in 2000 to 253 in 2019.

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u/DBasterd Dec 09 '21

Latin America “hold my beer”

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u/GrapefruitSmall575 Dec 08 '21

Indianapolis Indiana. Woot woot. It’s fucking hourly almost.

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u/LeftoverBun Dec 08 '21 Silver

"All-time high" yet the graphic says "Highest since [year]" indicating these are in fact, not all-time highs. Heelo I am grate journaliste

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u/squeda Dec 08 '21

What they aren’t mentioning is how some of these cities are also at the all-time high for population…

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u/XRayAnVav Dec 08 '21

In the case of Philadelphia at least it really is their all-time high. The highest since, in that case, is the year of the previous record.

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u/mrprogrampro Dec 08 '21

"I used to do drugs. I still do drugs, but I used to do them too."

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u/Sussurus_of_Qualia Dec 08 '21

"I tried heroin once and never stopped."

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u/Yolo_420_69 Dec 08 '21

I find it hard to believe its higher than the 90s crack pandemic

Edit: In the article it literally says "Highest since 1990"

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u/ronchalant Dec 09 '21

It says 2020 was Philly's highest since 1990. 2021 already surpassed 1990.

"It's terrible to every morning get up and have to go look at the numbers and then look at the news and see the stories. It's just crazy. It's just crazy and this needs to stop," Philadelphia Mayor Jim Kenney said after his city surpassed its annual homicide record of 500, which stood since 1990.

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u/StringerBel-Air Dec 08 '21

The only thing more deadly for gangs than the crack epidemic: Instagram beef with the opps.

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u/Dr_thri11 Dec 09 '21

I assume that is the year of the previous record.

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u/--jawnday-- Dec 08 '21

Our dear friend was one of the many who were killed by gunfire in Philly, just sitting on his porch when a stray bullet hit him in the chest.

Jim Kenney can talk the talk, but obviously can’t walk the walk and needs to either step up and do something other than point fingers or step down and let someone like Nutter try to fix this mess.

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u/Kodirt1 Dec 09 '21

What do you recommend?

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u/DarkSideMoon Dec 09 '21 edited Dec 09 '21

No bail and strict sentencing for violent offenses. Mandatory sentencing for firearms offenses. Stop prosecuting low level drug crimes. Focus on the “why’s” of low level property crime and get appropriate help for the perp- IE education or job placement for some single mom caught shoplifting diapers, rehab for drug addicts stealing for drug money, and hard time for those who squander those opportunities. Dump money into early intervention for kids. College/GED programs and job placement in prison. Make the shithole neighborhoods safe for the next generation and incarcerate the old one until they’re rehabilitated or stuck there until they’re too old to keep banging.

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u/sticks14 Dec 09 '21

Robert Boyce, retired chief of detectives for the New York Police Department and an ABC News contributor, said that while there is no single reason for the jump in slayings, one national crime statistic stands out to him.

“Nobody’s getting arrested anymore," Boyce said. "People are getting picked up for gun possession and they're just let out over and over again."

The FBI crime data shows that the number of arrests nationwide plummeted 24% in 2020, from the more than 10 million arrests made in 2019. The number of 2020 arrests -- 7.63 million -- is the lowest in 25 years, according to the data. FBI crime data is not yet available for 2021.

MORE: Homicide record broken in Louisville with 2 slayings, including a teenager killed on Thanksgiving Day

Christopher Herrmann, an assistant professor in the Department of Law & Police Science at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City, said the decrease in arrests could be attributed to the large number of police officers who retired or resigned in 2020 and 2021.

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“I knew 2020 was going to be a bad year because of the (COVID-19) pandemic but I really thought that a lot of these numbers would come down in 2021 just because a lot of society reopened and reopened pretty quickly," Herrmann said. “We don’t have the unemployment problem, we don’t have a lot of the economic stresses, housing and food insecurities aren't as much of an issue. A lot of those things were leading to the mental health stressors that were plaguing the country."

Not good.

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u/WeisserGeist Dec 08 '21

Yeah... societal breakdown will kinda do that.

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u/I_used_toothpaste Dec 09 '21

It’s a slow breakdown. Like a 92’ Nissan sentry

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u/GBinAZ Dec 08 '21

Well if anyone has been awake during the past 6 years, this really isn't surprising. Division and hate are the name of the game.

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u/CrosbyCanGetBent Dec 09 '21

Yo Detroit finally didn’t make the list

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u/Improvcommodore Dec 09 '21

Because it’s consistently high. Not an increase

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u/SierraOscar Dec 08 '21

Crime is going to sink the Democrats in the mid-terms and obliterate any chance Biden has of re-election.

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u/Foco_cholo Dec 09 '21

I've lived near Albuquerque and Denver. I always find it amazing that even though Albuquerque is 3 times SMALLER than Denver population wise, it always has more homicides.

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u/yickth Dec 09 '21

That’s murder, folks. As in, you’re not ever waking up again because someone took your life. You’re alive, and then, because someone acted in an irresponsible way, you’re no longer watching Netflix, or reheating your coffee in your microwave. No more Dune sequels. No more fried shrimp. You are not going to ever know if the pandemic ends, because you were murdered

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u/Alcea_Hexagram Dec 09 '21

Fuck! I like shrimp and dune! Murder blows!

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u/eturner94 Dec 09 '21 Take My Energy

It’s almost like letting the economy collapse for everyone except the uber wealthy causes the social contract to collapse, or something…

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u/SoggyWindows Dec 08 '21

Does this account for population growth of each city? 100 homocides when the pop is 1million is worse than 150 homocides when the pop is 2 million.

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u/InsuranceToTheRescue Dec 08 '21

It does not. They are just reporting raw numbers.

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u/kry1212 Dec 08 '21

This is definitely the best way to get laymen to draw appropriate conclusions….. 😑

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u/Thus_Spoke Dec 08 '21

It's raw numbers and therefore pretty useless. Growing cities get screwed by this metric, as they can "set records" even if their crime rate actually drops.

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u/capybarometer Dec 09 '21

E.g. Austin had the same # of murders (60) over the first nine months of this year as the first nine months of 1984, but in '84 had less than half their current population

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u/Adamweeesssttt Dec 08 '21

“Would you like to join the discussion?”

No, I don’t think I will.

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u/AdjNounNumbers Dec 09 '21

"Load comments"

Nah, I'd like to hang on to this last thread of sanity I'm dangling by

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u/CliplessWingtips Dec 08 '21

I'm surprised Houston, TX is not on there. According to what I've read Houston has been breaking records also lately.

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u/PimpCforlife Dec 08 '21

Houston has always been grimy but it's been really grimy as of late. Two cops were ambushed and killed in separate incidents about a month or two ago. People seem to get killed in road rage shootings fairly regularly. Angry people, endless guns, tons of new people who don't understand the city dynamics, a severely backlogged court system so judges are forced to release violent offenders on bail, hot weather, miserable traffic. This city is a fuckfest.

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u/Spore_monger Dec 08 '21

Someone needs to send Bill Burr to Philly again to tell them what's up.

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u/cm253 Dec 08 '21

Am I not understanding the map? None of those cities appear to have set an all-time high. Six of the 12 are are at their highest "since 2020". I.e., homicides are down from last year. Am I just being dense?

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