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The AP Interview: CDC chief says omicron mostly mild so far | AP News

https://apnews.com/article/ap-interview-coronavirus-omicron-rochelle-walensky-83c6607d1809a922ae0f892e22a5377f
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u/liarandathief Dec 09 '21

A highly infectious, but mild strain would be ideal. Push out the nastier stuff.

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u/SocraticIgnoramus Dec 09 '21

It may seem counterintuitive to some, but the best possible way out of this whole pandemic now that it’s established is for a milder strain to come along and trade us the symptoms of the common cold in exchange for natural antibodies.

Once a virus is established it’s nigh on impossible to fully eradicate. What we want is another version of the common cold because that’s something we’re equipped for. Whether Omicron is that remains to be seen.

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u/SocraticIgnoramus Dec 09 '21

I want to agree with your point but you’ve grossly overstated your thesis. Natural antibodies are very real, but they are a complex system rather than just one thing.

Coronaviruses do not easily produce the type of long term immune response that is needed to stave off an initial infection, but what gives most people some degree of immunity from the common cold is just near constant exposure.

Once something becomes fully endemic rather than pandemic, the immune defense is bolstered by the near constant exposure. Many colds just get passed around all the time because they’re too mild to give some people symptoms but they carry it and then others get it.

I’m not saying that everyone doesn’t need to be vaccinated. I’m a huge advocate of vaccination. What I’m saying is that I dream of a day when this virus has settled into an endemic version and perhaps it’s sufficient to only vaccinate the elderly, newborns, and highest risk. Part of this requires a more virulent but less deadly strain to emerge and outcompete the other strains like delta.

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u/ffsudjat Dec 09 '21

A so-called automated vaccination that even the antivacs cant opt out. It can be a blessing in disguise.

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u/dak4f2 Dec 09 '21

mild strain would be ideal. Push out the nastier stuff.

Won't the hippos, mink, deer, cats, etc. still carry delta covid for quite awhile?

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u/c_m_33 Dec 09 '21

I really hope this pans out to be true. I’m finding the reporting around this variant more frustrating than even when the original Covid came through. Some say it’s mild. Others say it’s a doomsday scenario. Vaccines don’t work as well, but the booster will help. However, we may need a 4th shot specific to omicron. It’s all so exhausting.

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u/FrostyFoss Dec 09 '21

I've been giving every headline a solid Kendall Roy uh huh.

Time will tell. Meanwhile i'm boosted and masked.

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u/FiskTireBoy Dec 09 '21

And the shitty thing is everyone is picking and choose the parts they want to hear and treating is a gospel when it's still too early to know for sure. I've already seen plenty of people on Reddit say "The new varient is no big deal it's mild etc" when like 2 weeks we didnt even know about it.

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u/sribowsky Dec 09 '21

Yeah it’s upsetting how people just bolster their own opinions and insulate themselves from what is really happening around this virus as it suits their needs in each moment…

We don’t know how bad it will be but my opinion has always been to play it as safe as possible and consider your “bubble” and those who are most vulnerable when continuing to mask and sequester…plus getting the booster asap. Do as much as we can to stay safe while we wait for the truth to become more clear….and try to keep cases as low as possible in the hospitals..🙏

Ofc this may seem obvious but to some who don’t see so clearly…it’s worth reiterating

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '21

Agreed, still too early to tell but hopefully what’s happening in South Africa isn’t a sign of things to come.

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u/TrunksTheMighty Dec 09 '21

The fact that no deaths reported is is a huge boon.

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u/vanillabeanlover Dec 09 '21

They might be referring to the one report saying that under 5’s are being hospitalized at higher rates there? Still too early to be drawing definitive conclusions either way.

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u/vanillabeanlover Dec 09 '21

Yep. With the vaccine for this age group not available until some time in the new year, and the spacing needed for the vaccine, I’m really hoping it’s a report that turns into a nothing burger:/.

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u/stripes361 Dec 09 '21

What’s (reported as) happening in South Africa is actually close to ideal. A mild strain with few hospitalizations and deaths that’s crowding out worse strains like Delta. I hope that’s how it behaves everywhere.

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u/rukh999 Dec 09 '21

Nobody's saying its a doomsday scenario. With any new even information evolves fast. When it was first detected lots of people were urging caution because it could be serious and not much was known about how it was affecting people, but we're finding its mild now which is great. We could still find out other new information that changes that perception though. That's how braking events always are.

There will likely be boosters for this, but if it's mild, it'll be more like the yearly flue vaccine. Get it or don't and be miserable for a while.

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u/Tulol Dec 09 '21

Well this is cdc. So your info doesn’t get any better.

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u/Chippopotanuse Dec 09 '21

I’m all for glamour shots that subjects ask media to use, but this photo looks like some cheap stock photo of “businesswoman in a city”

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u/azulur Dec 09 '21

So far, looking really optimistic but still waiting for more data. Virus behaving in this tragectory (more transmittable, less lethal) is one of the best case scenarios we could have!

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u/Doctor420Strange69 Dec 09 '21

She said “the disease is mild” in almost all of the cases seen so far, with reported symptoms mainly cough, congestion and fatigue. One person was hospitalized, but no deaths have been reported, CDC officials said.

This is excellent, and also should serve as a reminder that focus should get vaccinated ASAP. The next variant might be worse, and extra immunity never hurt anyone.

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u/FiskTireBoy Dec 09 '21

Unfortunately people are going to see a couple articles about how people are getting mild symptoms (so far) and decide they don't need to get vaccinated now.

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u/Skyblacker Dec 09 '21

I think most people decided whether or not to get vaccinated a few months ago. New information might affect if some people get boosters, but even people with waning vaccinations aren't the ones ending up in the hospital usually.

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u/david21216 Dec 09 '21

Right and wouldn’t most cases of delta be classified as mild as well? Most ppl don’t end up in the hospital and many more never know they even had it so it is hard to tell what to think at this moment.

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u/Erawtik Dec 09 '21

Check out Michigan right now if you think Delta is mild.

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u/david21216 Dec 09 '21

You’ve missed my point. I know delta is very serious but if the vast majority of people are hi contract it don’t go to the hospital you could argue that it is mild. I’m trying to say that even if they are calling omicron mild it doesn’t mean it’s a blessing.

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u/ljog42 Dec 09 '21

Well the difference between 5% of serious cases and 0,5% of serious cases is potentially hundred of thousands if not millions of deaths globally, and a much midler Omicron would mean less stress on the healthcare system, so maybe even less deaths from serious cases as more ressources can be allocated (no one dying in the waiting room on a stretcher at least).

A 5% chance of death might not seem like terrible odds but it's way way more than needed to potentially threaten our society. Thankfully Covi never reached those numbers but what that means is we gotta aim for very low numbers. The flu is around 0.1% lethality and it's problematic during winter months, to the point we encourage vaccination. Case Fatality Rate, which is a flawed indicator to say the least is currently slightly above 2% globally. Getting that number down to 0.5% would be huge.

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u/david21216 Dec 09 '21

I agree, lets hope for the best.

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u/Erawtik Dec 09 '21

Agreed. The mental gymnastics done by the anti vax crowd is gold medal level.

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u/samdajellybeenie Dec 09 '21

It's likely that the next variant won't be worse, viruses just don't mutate in that direction. Since their whole goal is to spread themselves to as many people as possible, they evolve to be more transmissible but less lethal. It wouldn't make sense to kill all their hosts, you know? But what do I know, I'm not a virologist.

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u/vanillabeanlover Dec 09 '21

It works this way for a lot of viruses, but Covid is a different beast in that it spreads before showing symptoms. Asymptomatic spread means it has ample opportunity to spread before the host gets really sick. It has no evolutionary reason to change to be more mild. It can become more mild, but it can still become more deadly, as shown by the Delta variant.

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u/Comrade_Derpsky Dec 09 '21

Quite the contrary actually. It causes enough severe cases that its human hosts will do things like modifying their behavior to avoid infection and innoculating themselves against it. This will have an effect of selecting for variants that cause milder illness that provokes less of a behavioral response from the host. Nobody gets particularly paranoid about catching a common cold. Why not? Because there's very little danger in it; all it does it make you feel mildly ill for a week or so.

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u/LittleShrub Dec 09 '21

Did she discuss any anagrams of the word though?

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u/HulkSmashHulkRegret Dec 09 '21

Moronic.

That’s all it is. Or is it that’s all we are?

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u/Aintsosimple Dec 09 '21

No shit. Listening to the news over the last few weeks you would have thought the plague took hold and was racing around the globe. Omicron seems to be a cold.

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u/WSL_subreddit_mod Dec 09 '21

She said “the disease is mild” in almost all of the cases seen so far, with reported symptoms mainly cough, congestion and fatigue. One person was hospitalized, but no deaths have been reported, CDC officials said.

Walensky noted that the data is a very early, first glimpse of U.S. omicron infections.

This is specifically the US. Of course it's mild, it takes weeks before people are hospitalized, and weeks more for deaths.

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u/Hellige88 Dec 09 '21

I’m curious if they’re keeping track of how severe the cases are and who’s been vaccinated. Initial data has shown that the vaccines are responsive to Omicron, so naturally those who are vaccinated should have much more mild symptoms.

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u/Africanvar Dec 09 '21

So all the panic was so the stocks would go down a bit and then rise so a few make a quick profit

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u/ZeldaAyers Dec 09 '21

That's great right up until all the anti-vaxxers tell themselves its not so bad and spread it around the world until they come up with one that isn't so mild again.

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u/david21216 Dec 09 '21

They are doing that now, so what’s the difference?

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u/Sensitive-Permit-877 Dec 09 '21

This is why people are antimask or giving up on all this covid shit. One post says you need more boosters. Next post meh its mild next post oh no new one out. Misinformation goes both ways. If you go after some mis information go after all even the big media funded companies

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u/DanielPhermous Dec 09 '21

This isn't misinformation. This is a combination of science and responsible paranoia. Science, by definition, refines what it considers to be correct when further information is forthcoming. Given Omicron is new, this is obviously happening a lot. See also: the qualification in the headline.

And responsible paranoia in a worldwide pandemic that has killed 700,000 Americans means assuming the worst until proven otherwise.

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u/Dischucker Dec 09 '21

Responsible parinoia lmao

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u/MostlyPeacfulPndemic Dec 09 '21 edited Dec 09 '21

To be fair it kinda was over in June, but at the VERY LAST minute was like lol jk